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    • Dec 2008
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    endoscopia- esame citoligico

    Salve,

    il mio Billy ha avuto un problema ai polmoni (il sx sopratutto); ho fatto fare delle Rx e una endoscopia ( rischio del forasacco).
    L'endoscopia ha evidenziato un fortissimo infiammamento fin dalla trachea.
    Sono stai presi campino di muco
    Il seguente esame citologico ha dato:

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mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]-->DESCRIZIONE CITOLOGICA: brush- campioni ipercellulari, caratterizzati
    dalla presenza di grandi aggregati coesi, con disposizione a palizzata dei
    nuclei, di cellule colonnari ciliate con apparato ciliare non sempre integro,
    nucleo polarizzato e citoplasma abbondante, debolmente basofilo.
    Si rileva, in sede extracellulare, abbondante muco rosato filamentoso,
    sporadici neutrofili e macrofagi.
    BAL- cellularità scarsa. Si osservano alcuni macrofagi ed elementi epiteliali
    non perfettamente conservati.
    DIAGNOSI: quadro suggestivo di iperplasia e modesta flogosi cronica. La
    storia clinica richiede monitoraggio del soggetto.

    Mi dicono di continuare con Baytril.

    Che ne pensate??

    Grazie in anticipo.

    Walter
  • Tuco
    ⭐⭐⭐
    • Dec 2007
    • 1704
    • Sori, Genova .
    • Pablo, Epagneul Breton Elsa, Spinone Alba, Spinone

    #2
    Un po' di storia (anamnesi) remota e prossima del soggetto non guasterebbe!
    Io avrei comunque aggiunto una coltura del materiale prelevato, al fine di ottenere un antibiogramma e conseguente antibioticoterapia mirata.

    Commenta

    • walge
      ⭐⭐
      • Dec 2008
      • 624
      • roma
      • setter inglese

      #3
      Chi ha eseguito l'endoscopia e chia ha redatto l'analisi citologica dicono che il Baytril va benissimo; oggi sono 12 gg, devo arrivare a 20gg, come suggerito.
      Di seguito il referto della'endoscopia:
      "
      la trachea presenta marcata iperemia e displasia mucosale.
      Polmone sinistro: lobo caudale: marcato edema ed iperemia, tracce di materiale mucopurulento, chiusura del lobo lb11

      Lobo craniale: iperemia diffusa e tracce di materiale mucoso

      Polmone destro: iperemia ed edema diffuso, tracce di materiale mucopurulento

      Sono stati eseguiti prelievi citologici tramite cytobrush e bal
      Quadro compatibile con tracheobronchite cronica. "

      Questo dopo 6 giorni di Baytril.



      Il cane, circa 20 giorni, fa ha accusato un calo di rendimento.
      Il soggetto e' molto potente a caccia e, normalmente, lavora per 4-5 ore a ritmi elevati senza sosta.

      Non so dire da quanto abbia questo problema perche', di fatto, sul terreno si e' sempre dimostrato molto attivo.

      Walter

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      • Tuco
        ⭐⭐⭐
        • Dec 2007
        • 1704
        • Sori, Genova .
        • Pablo, Epagneul Breton Elsa, Spinone Alba, Spinone

        #4
        Tracheobronchite cronica per......colpa di chi/quale agente patogeno (nome e cognome).

        Commenta

        • Rossella
          ⭐⭐⭐⭐
          • Mar 2005
          • 14715
          • Gallia Cisalpina
          • Setter Inglese

          #5
          però, come dice tuco, ed è la stessa osservazione che avrei fatto io, non è stata effettuata una cultura x batteri (eventualmente anche funghi? potrebbe avere senso?) e relativo antibiogramma.

          Cmq l'esito dice tutto e niente, inoltre, primo post, si parla di modesta flogosi cronica il che contraddice il fortissimo (modesta) "infiammamento"...

          Sono d'accordo con Tuco che chiede anche a te di fornire più dettagli sulla sintomatologia e storia clinica del soggetto.

          Avete mai fatto un esame del sangue? Gli eosinofili come sono?

          Rossella
          Dogs & Country http://www.dogsandcountry.it

          http://dogsandcountry.it/the-gundog-project/ Progetto di ricerca sul cane da caccia e da prove :-)

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