Braga

**Arha** · 22-03-16, 12:00

Hi Patricia,
In this thread you can see how is possible to make a home-made braga.

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**Patricia** · 22-03-16, 13:17

Mille grazie, Edo !
Ho letto il testo in seguito.

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Edo,
http://www.giornaledelbraccoitaliano.it/brtro11.pdf

http://www.ilbraccoitaliano.org/Annu...ABI%202006.pdf - (pag. 41)
non funzionano.
Posso travare altrove ?

Un'altra domanda : il braga è controverso in Italia ?
Problema è : partecipiamo "field trials" e, come in Italia, in Belgio e nei Paesi Bassi, "Bracchi needs to trot". Solo modo di vedere questo è quello di formare il braga.
Oppure no ? Ci sono altre risorse ?

**bosco64** · 22-03-16, 13:54

To make them trot the braga it's OK

**Lucio Marzano** · 22-03-16, 13:54

please have a look on the the new working standard, where the trot isn't the only gait allowed and the gallop is now accepted when objectively convenient.

**Arha** · 22-03-16, 14:17

Hi Patricia, i am not an espero about bracco, i have an english setter so, maybe, other people in this forum Can answer to your questions in a better way.
The only think i understand from the people how have bracco is that trot teaching with braga can denaturalize bracco because is a duress.
More things i don't know...

**dino** · 22-03-16, 15:15

http://www.ilbraccoitaliano.org/imag...uario_2006.pdf (pag. 41)

http://www.giornaledelbraccoitaliano.it/braccoitaliano-11-trotto-e-braga.pdf

http://www.giornaledelbraccoitaliano.it/braccoitaliano-10-addestramento-trotto.pdf

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**Johnny Padella** · 22-03-16, 15:17

Mates...
What a bunch of english speaking cinophiles on this Forum...[:D]

**Patricia** · 22-03-16, 15:33

Thank you all !
It is most helpfull !!! Really !!!

... nice, this "bunch of anglophiles" ... :-)

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@Lucio : is this official ? Can I use the new standard when I enter competition ? Is this new standard also official in Italy for the field competitions and are Bracco's no longer mandatory to trot ?
Would be very helpfull if I could use this information !

**Lucio Marzano** · 22-03-16, 15:41

the new standard is absolutely official and should be adopted everywhere, of course also in Italy . In fact you can find the text on the official website of SABI (società amatori bracco italiano)

**Patricia** · 22-03-16, 15:45

Thank you very, very much Lucio !!!
I immediately send your information to the president of the Dutch Bracco Italiano Club. And hopefully he will take this information to "Orweja", the Dutch organiser of field trials.
THANK YOU !!!

**Patricia** · 24-03-16, 09:49

@Lucio : Nelleke (of the Bracco Italiano Club Netherlands) saw you last weekend during a field trial in Italy. She says alle Bracchi, in competition, were trotting.

It's not necessary that your Bracco trot, but it's "appreciated". I find this very difficult. What does "appreciate" stands for ? Better qualifiction ? It shoulded be because the new standard says it's not obligated.

Often, I'm the only owner, in Belgium and Holland, who enters a field trial with a Bracco. But the judges always remark : your Bracco doesn't trot, so that influences your qualification.

Pfff, so difficult ! Do you need to train your Bracco to trot or not ?
The reason "it's more beautiful" is, my opinion, not correct. First : the standard for Bracchi says "not obligated". Second : "beautiful" is relatively ... what's beautiful today, people find ugly tomorrow. So to speak.

**Lucio Marzano** · 24-03-16, 13:29

The new working standard is written and it is clear.
Also in italy many judges appreciate and reward the dogs that are put to trot even just melted, but it is a big mistake, because it is to apply the norm and because everyone knows that : just melted a Bracco gallops (certainly an healthy hound, athletic and full of passion). The field testing does not last more than 15-20 minutes and a dog even just normal without being a champion in such a 'short period will gallop and if the dog trot is because it's been a long time trained with "braga". The hunting time is a few hours long, and the braccohas the possibility to trot, after the initial rush. Whichever way the bracco has to trot in the promulgation of perfumes and evaluation phases. In my personal opinion it is simply ridiculous to judge the bracco considering a gait absolutely unnatural and sets with tools .

**Patricia** · 24-03-16, 15:01

Thank you for, again, a detailed reaction, Lucio !
Ow, how I would like to have a chance to talk with you all day and learn from your experience and your ideas. :-)

Indeed !!! A Bracco that is full of hunting passion, gallops when you release him in the field. Every time, my Bracco is eager to "attack" the fields. Beautiful to see ! How she, full of passion gallops. If we go hunting, then, after a certain time (more then 20 minutes !), she starts to trot. Just because, like you say, the initial rush is over. So I really understand and agree with your opinion : I love the passion in my Bracco and love to see how she uses it to find pheasants and partridges. If I have to choose between a Bracco with so much passion or a Bracco that trots ... well I know witch one to choose. I never understood why Bracco owners needs to ask more from their dogs, i.c. to trot, then other hunting dog owners (like Heidewachtel, German brack, ...). The owners of other hunting dog breeds just need to train their dogs to cover the field correctly, to be steady, to use the wind correctly, ... while we need to train extra to learn our Bracco to trot.
My next field trial is the week after Eastern. I'm curious what the judges will say when I tell them trotting is no longer working standard for a Bracco ...

Hope to see you one day in Italy, Lucio, and have a LONG LONG LONG conversation about Bracchi !
Nice evening !
Patricia

**Lucio Marzano** · 24-03-16, 16:53

I am always happy to do the talks on the bracco . The trot is an endurance gait is not a sprinter gait, but it must be a natural trot, the trot that we see in the trials fields is a trot that costs a lot of energy and that is not an hunting gait because the dog shouldn’t maintain more that one hour at the maximum, instead of the natural trot can be maintained during a lot of hours.

we must also mention the quality of the trot: the trot of a good bracco must have a strong drive from behind, have to be extended with a marked withdrawal period, not slack and should express strength and elegance, but also the gallop should be typical not impetuous, but continuous and soft.

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