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  • sergiom
    • Sep 2025

    #1

    Avvelenamento da teobromina.

    Grazie al deficiente di mio nipote, il mio cane ha ingerito della cioccolata al latte. Si tratta per fortuna di pochi grammi di barretta Kinder. Ieri dopo circa due ore ha vomitato spontaneamente, poi a cominciato ad avere segni di spossatezza. Oggi è voluto uscire 10 volte, contro le solite 4, sia per urinare che per defecare morbido. A 24 ore dall'ingestione non mi sembra ancora in forma, cosa posso dargli di naturale per eliminare il veleno? Vanno bene delle patate lesse? Il mio cane è una femmina di 8 mesi, pesa sui 35kg.
    Grazie anticipatamente.

    Sergio
  • Rossella
    ⭐⭐⭐⭐
    • Mar 2005
    • 14715
    • Gallia Cisalpina
    • Setter Inglese

    #2
    nessun veleno sergio. Il kinder ha praticamente 0 teobromina e in ogni caso per un cane di 35kg per stare male avrebbe dovuto mangiare una tavoletta di cioccolato fondente extra da 500g. O forse anche di più.
    Non ha nemmeno i sintomi dell'avvelenamento da teobromina.

    Inoltre (e qui prego anche i moderatori di altre sezioni di NON moderare i post di questa sezione senza dare il tempo di leggere a me o ai collaboratori di sezione!).

    La sezione non va intesa come pronto soccorso. Il caso di problemi gravi e urgenti come avvelenamenti (per fortuna questo non lo è) si va dal veterinario, non si scrive qui.
    Dogs & Country http://www.dogsandcountry.it

    http://dogsandcountry.it/the-gundog-project/ Progetto di ricerca sul cane da caccia e da prove :-)

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    • sergiom

      #3
      Originariamente inviato da Rossella
      nessun veleno sergio. Il kinder ha praticamente 0 teobromina e in ogni caso per un cane di 35kg per stare male avrebbe dovuto mangiare una tavoletta di cioccolato fondente extra da 500g. O forse anche di più.
      Non ha nemmeno i sintomi dell'avvelenamento da teobromina.

      Inoltre (e qui prego anche i moderatori di altre sezioni di NON moderare i post di questa sezione senza dare il tempo di leggere a me o ai collaboratori di sezione!).

      La sezione non va intesa come pronto soccorso. Il caso di problemi gravi e urgenti come avvelenamenti (per fortuna questo non lo è) si va dal veterinario, non si scrive qui.
      Grazie

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      • Rossella
        ⭐⭐⭐⭐
        • Mar 2005
        • 14715
        • Gallia Cisalpina
        • Setter Inglese

        #4
        Originariamente inviato da sergiom
        Grazie

        come sta oggi? non è che ha mangiato qualche altra porcheria oltre al kinder?
        Dogs & Country http://www.dogsandcountry.it

        http://dogsandcountry.it/the-gundog-project/ Progetto di ricerca sul cane da caccia e da prove :-)

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        • sergiom

          #5
          Originariamente inviato da Rossella
          come sta oggi? non è che ha mangiato qualche altra porcheria oltre al kinder?
          Sta molto meglio grazie. Escludo abbia mangiato altro, evidentemente deve essere particolarmente intollerante visto il bassissimo dosaggio contenuto nella barretta. Colgo l'occasione per ricordare a tutti quelli che leggono, che la cioccolata è veleno per i nostri cani.
          Grazie per l'interessamento.

          Sergio

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          • sara.corrias

            #6
            Probabilmente il kinder le ha fatto semplicemente male.

            Cmq stampa bene nella testa di chiunque si avvicini al tuo cane che il cioccolato è VELENO per loro, l'anno scorso dal mio vet è arrivato un cane in fin di vita per aver agguantato un uovo di pasqua lasciato alla sua portata. Nulla da fare il cane è morto.


            Cmq dalle per qualche giorno dei fermenti lattici, va bene l'enterogermina o il Florentero (che è specifico per cani).

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            • sergiom

              #7
              Originariamente inviato da sara.corrias
              Probabilmente il kinder le ha fatto semplicemente male.

              Cmq stampa bene nella testa di chiunque si avvicini al tuo cane che il cioccolato è VELENO per loro, l'anno scorso dal mio vet è arrivato un cane in fin di vita per aver agguantato un uovo di pasqua lasciato alla sua portata. Nulla da fare il cane è morto.


              Cmq dalle per qualche giorno dei fermenti lattici, va bene l'enterogermina o il Florentero (che è specifico per cani).
              Grazie

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              • Rossella
                ⭐⭐⭐⭐
                • Mar 2005
                • 14715
                • Gallia Cisalpina
                • Setter Inglese

                #8
                Originariamente inviato da sergiom
                Sta molto meglio grazie. Escludo abbia mangiato altro, evidentemente deve essere particolarmente intollerante visto il bassissimo dosaggio contenuto nella barretta. Colgo l'occasione per ricordare a tutti quelli che leggono, che la cioccolata è veleno per i nostri cani.
                Grazie per l'interessamento.

                Sergio

                no davvero dibito persino che ci sia della teobromina nel kinder e ribadisco NON ha sintomi di questo. Probabile sia stato il latte piuttosto.
                Dogs & Country http://www.dogsandcountry.it

                http://dogsandcountry.it/the-gundog-project/ Progetto di ricerca sul cane da caccia e da prove :-)

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                • gioturco
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                  • Jan 2011
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                  #9
                  Sbirciando in rete ho trovato una informazione utile a riguardo su wikipedia:

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QFormat="true" Name="TOC Heading"/> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Tabella normale"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-qformat:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin-top:0cm; mso-para-margin-right:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> Effetti sugli animali
                  Struttura della teobromina. La teobromina contenuta nel cioccolato è tossica per i cani, i cavalli ed altri piccoli animali che sono incapaci di metabolizzarla. In piccole quantità riesce ad essere un potente stimolante per i cavalli, al punto da essere bandito dalle corse in quanto sostanza illegale.
                  Se un animale mangia del cioccolato in quantità consistente, la teobromina può permanere nel suo sangue fino a 20 ore, provocandogli disturbi che possono andare dalle convulsioni all'attacco cardiaco all'emorragia interna fino - nei casi peggiori - alla morte. Il primo trattamento, da eseguirsi entro due ore dall'ingestione, consiste nel provocare il vomito. È quindi necessario interpellare un veterinario.
                  La DL50, ossia la dose letale per il 50% del campione, della teobromina per i cani è 330 milligrammi per chilogrammo di peso corporeo, un dato simile a quello della caffeina per gli esseri umani. Un cane di circa 20 Kg di peso soffrirà qualche disturbo intestinale dopo aver mangiato circa 250 g di cioccolato al latte, bradicardia o aritmia cardiaca se ne mangia mezzo chilo. Cinque chili di cioccolato hanno il 50% di probabilità di ucciderlo. Col cioccolato fondente le dosi sono inferiori, essendo questo più ricco di cacao.

                  Su di un altro sito ho invece trovato questa tabella:

                  Tabella nutrizionale del cioccolato (per 100 g): <table class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">
                  </td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">PURO</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">AL LATTE</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">BIANCO</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Proteine</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">3.2 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">7.6 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">7.5 g</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Grassi</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">33.5 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">32.3 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">37 g</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Zuccheri</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">60.3 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">57 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">52 g</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Lecitina</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.3 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.3 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.3 g</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Teobromina</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.6 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.2 g</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">
                  </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Calcio</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">20 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">220 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">250 mg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Magnesio</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">80 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">50 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">30 mg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Fosforo</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">130 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">210 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">200 mg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Ferro</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">2 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.8 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">
                  </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Rame</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.7 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.4 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">
                  </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Vitamina A</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">40 UI</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">300 UI</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">220 UI</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Vitamina B1</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.06 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.1 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.1 mg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Vitamina B2</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.02 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.3 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.3</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Vitamina C</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">1.14 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">0.3 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">3 mg</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Vitamina D</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">50 UI</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">70 UI</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">15 UI</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Vitamina E</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">2.4 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">1.2 mg</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">
                  </td> </tr> <tr> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">Calorie</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">555.5 Kcal</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">549.1 Kcal</td> <td class="adieta-ari-news" style="border: 1px solid green;">571 Kcal</td></tr></tbody></table>
                  Lupus est homo homini... (Asinaria, Plauto)
                  da cui: Homo homini lupus

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                  • Rossella
                    ⭐⭐⭐⭐
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 14715
                    • Gallia Cisalpina
                    • Setter Inglese

                    #10
                    Originariamente inviato da gioturco
                    Sbirciando in rete ho trovato una informazione utile a riguardo su wikipedia:

                    Effetti sugli animali
                    Struttura della teobromina. La teobromina contenuta nel cioccolato è tossica per i cani, i cavalli ed altri piccoli animali che sono incapaci di metabolizzarla. In piccole quantità riesce ad essere un potente stimolante per i cavalli, al punto da essere bandito dalle corse in quanto sostanza illegale.

                    beh il resto è corretto ma potente stimolante no... è una xantina come caffeina e teina... Non è che il cavallo lo faccia volare.
                    Per avere effetti importanti con queste sostanze devi andare su dosaggi che quasi sempre comportano effetti collaterali tali da eliminare l'effetto positivo cercato (tachicardia, tremori...)
                    Forse chi ha scritto l'ha confusa con la teofillina una sostanza affine ma diversa che veniva usata nel cavallo come broncodilatatore. (mi pare appunto oggi sia proibit, dovrei riguardare il libro :-). La usano anche le persone asmatiche questa.
                    Dogs & Country http://www.dogsandcountry.it

                    http://dogsandcountry.it/the-gundog-project/ Progetto di ricerca sul cane da caccia e da prove :-)

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                    • Paolo Ful
                      ⭐⭐⭐
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1301
                      • Piemonte Nord
                      • Kurzhaar, Beagle

                      #11
                      Clenbuterolo???

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                      • Rossella
                        ⭐⭐⭐⭐
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 14715
                        • Gallia Cisalpina
                        • Setter Inglese

                        #12
                        no :-) il clenbuterolo è usato come anabolizzante nei vitelli favorendo lo sviluppo della massa magra. ç'uso nel cavallo è ammesso in caso di sindrome respiratoria ostruttiva mentre è vietato negli animali da reddito (per ragioni sanitarie rivolte al consumatore finale).
                        La teofillina è una xantina invece, considerata analettico respiratorio (doping) nel cavallo.
                        Dogs & Country http://www.dogsandcountry.it

                        http://dogsandcountry.it/the-gundog-project/ Progetto di ricerca sul cane da caccia e da prove :-)

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                        • BraccoArtù
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 72
                          • Genova Sestri
                          • bracco italiano

                          #13
                          Ogni giorno che passa (per vari motivi) mi sono accorto di avere non un cane ma un mosrto ..
                          Il mio cagnastro la Pasqua scorsa ha ingerito circa un kg di cioccolato (bianco latte fondente kinder) e non ha avuto nessun effetto collaterale.. (per fortuna). Avevamo lasciato i resti dell uova delle mie figlie ad un' altezza non sufficiente e lasciata la possibilità al cane di entrare in cucina in nostra assenza

                          Ciao

                          PS.. è solo per sdramatizzare (scusate se sono fuori luogo).. vi racconterò poi altre vicissitudini alimentari

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                          • papararo
                            ⭐⭐⭐
                            • May 2006
                            • 2692
                            • catania, Catania, Sicilia.

                            #14
                            Originariamente inviato da BraccoArtù
                            Ogni giorno che passa (per vari motivi) mi sono accorto di avere non un cane ma un mosrto ..
                            Il mio cagnastro la Pasqua scorsa ha ingerito circa un kg di cioccolato (bianco latte fondente kinder) e non ha avuto nessun effetto collaterale.. (per fortuna). Avevamo lasciato i resti dell uova delle mie figlie ad un' altezza non sufficiente e lasciata la possibilità al cane di entrare in cucina in nostra assenza

                            Ciao

                            PS.. è solo per sdramatizzare (scusate se sono fuori luogo).. vi racconterò poi altre vicissitudini alimentari
                            se per questo la bun'anima di max ,che a casa non toccava nulla, per dispetto si pappo' un vassoione di ferrero rocher..effetti gravissimi: ha cagato la stagnola per 2 giorni.[:D]
                            pap

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