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  • elenazagor
    ⭐⭐
    • Jan 2011
    • 811
    • Salsomaggiore Terme
    • kurzhaar

    #1126
    Originariamente inviato da cla1967

    scherzi a parte è un bel cane, se non erro ha vinto ieri a Bereguardo.
    Sììì, ha vinto il best in show a Bereguardo ieri!

    Per orgoglio personale devo dire che Zeus ha vinto il best in show cuccioli alla stessa manifestazione! Quindi due K sul podio! Cesare lo ha presentato benissimo.
    DRACO DORMIENS NUNQUAM TITILLANDUS

    Commenta

    • ifabio76

      #1127
      Premesso che di k non ne capisco nulla,
      dalla foto ho rilevato una divergenza delle linee cranio-muso che prima non aveva notato nei k.
      Spinto da questo dubbio sono andato a cercare cosa riporta lo standard a riguardo. Forse sarà una mia svista, ma non ho trovato nulla a riguardo [occhi][occhi][occhi][occhi].
      E' possibile??? oppure trattasi di mio errore????
      grazie.
      Ultima modifica Ospite; 09-05-11, 11:58.

      Commenta

      • Alessandro il cacciatore
        🥇🥇
        • Feb 2009
        • 20199
        • al centro della Toscana
        • Deutsch Kurzhaar

        #1128
        Originariamente inviato da elenazagor
        Sììì, ha vinto il best in show a Bereguardo ieri!

        Per orgoglio personale devo dire che Zeus ha vinto il best in show cuccioli alla stessa manifestazione! Quindi due K sul podio! Cesare lo ha presentato benissimo.
        Complimenti!!!! Ma hai informato l'allevatrice? Fara' i salti di gioia!
        Ars venandi est collectio documentorum, quibus scient homines ad opus suum deprehendere animalia non domestica cuiuscumque generis vi vel ingenio. (Fridericus II Imperator 1194-1250)

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        • giuseppe_gruosso
          ⭐⭐
          • May 2010
          • 577
          • robbio (pavia)
          • kurzhaar ron, cuba, dior fox terrier matt

          #1129
          Ieri anche se ero di corsa, ho visto diversi bei kurzhaar, ma questo mi ha colpito molto, da lontano ho visto anche zeus, peccato la fretta, avrei voluto seguire la manifestazione
          Lasciatemi svegliare all'alba, camminare chilometri, portare il fucile a spalla e godere nel guardare il mio cane cacciare...e sarò un uomo felice.

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          • EnricoTaglia
            ⭐⭐⭐
            • Feb 2009
            • 2912
            • Roma, purtroppo
            • kurzhaar

            #1130
            Originariamente inviato da Lucio Marzano
            che ne dite di questo K ?

            che è un gran bel cane, dateci qualche ragguaglio in più

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            • cla1967
              ⭐⭐⭐
              • Jan 2009
              • 3424
              • mulazzano
              • kurzhaar femmina e un maschio

              #1131
              Originariamente inviato da EnricoTaglia
              che è un gran bel cane, dateci qualche ragguaglio in più
              Te ne avevo già parlato tempo fa, figlio di Lucky per una cagna che arriva da Pradellinensis erik, ha una bella struttora, un collo ed un muso importante, se proprio dovessimo trovare un pelo nell'uovo ma bisogna essere rompi c....oni, e una spaccatura sulla schiena che forse in foto si nota meno, ma tanto di cappello ad avere un cane così
              [zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto]

              Commenta

              • setterman quasi braccoman

                #1132
                Questa mattina allenamento con Giancotti il primo cane è Pradellinensis Taco l'altro un giovane molto interessante
                File allegati

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                • Lucio Marzano
                  Lo zio
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 30090
                  • chiasso svizzera
                  • bracco italiano

                  #1133
                  Originariamente inviato da ifabio76
                  Premesso che di k non ne capisco nulla,
                  dalla foto ho rilevato una divergenza delle linee cranio-muso che prima non aveva notato nei k.
                  Spinto da questo dubbio sono andato a cercare cosa riporta lo standard a riguardo. Forse sarà una mia svista, ma non ho trovato nulla a riguardo .
                  E' possibile??? oppure trattasi di mio errore????
                  grazie.
                  Non direttamente specificata la divergenza degli assi cranio facciali,
                  ma la si desume ,infatti lo standard dice :

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                  :Cranio sufficientemente largo, leggermentea volta, l'occipite leggermente pronunciato, il solco mediano non profondo, le arcate sopraciliari ben formate.
                  nota "leggermente a volta



                  : ] Stop Appena accennato
                  questo è un vero, piu' o meno voluto , errore di traduzione, lo standard ufficiale tedesco parla di stop mediamente (maessig) marcato, non appena accennato

                  .
                  :Muso Lungo largo profondo e potente per facilitare al cane il corretto riporto della selvaggina. La canna nasale mostra di profilo una leggera convessita' che va da una forma nobilmente montonina fino ad un leggero rilievo sull'orizzontale, il tutto piu' marcato nei maschi. Una canna nasale rettilinea, ugualmente ammissibile, e' meno apprezzata. Una linea della canna concava e' un difetto grave
                  cio' che porta inevitabilmente a delle linee cranio facciali divergenti sia pure in modo non evidentissimo


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                  lucio

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                  • EnricoTaglia
                    ⭐⭐⭐
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2912
                    • Roma, purtroppo
                    • kurzhaar

                    #1134
                    Originariamente inviato da cla1967
                    Te ne avevo già parlato tempo fa, figlio di Lucky per una cagna che arriva da Pradellinensis erik, ha una bella struttora, un collo ed un muso importante, se proprio dovessimo trovare un pelo nell'uovo ma bisogna essere rompi c....oni, e una spaccatura sulla schiena che forse in foto si nota meno, ma tanto di cappello ad avere un cane così

                    oramai ho più cani in testa del sito istituzionale dell'Enci tendo a scordare..........

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                    • cla1967
                      ⭐⭐⭐
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3424
                      • mulazzano
                      • kurzhaar femmina e un maschio

                      #1135
                      ha occhi solo per i san fiorano ormai[:D][:D][:D]
                      [zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto]

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                      • EnricoTaglia
                        ⭐⭐⭐
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2912
                        • Roma, purtroppo
                        • kurzhaar

                        #1136
                        Originariamente inviato da setterman
                        Questa mattina allenamento con Giancotti il primo cane è Pradellinensis Taco l'altro un giovane molto interessante

                        se ti capita saluta Pino digli che lo saluta Forrest Gump. la fase di galoppo della quarta foto è molto bella, bel portamento

                        ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 03:38 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 03:34 PM ----------

                        Originariamente inviato da cla1967
                        ha occhi solo per i san fiorano ormai[:D][:D][:D]
                        ringraziando Dio costano un po meno ma sono forse più belli

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                        • ifabio76

                          #1137
                          Originariamente inviato da Lucio Marzano
                          cio' che porta inevitabilmente a delle linee cranio facciali divergenti sia pure in modo non evidentissimo


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                          Quindi non è stata una mia svista.
                          Concordo sul fatto che le convessita "solitamente" portano a delle divergenze, ma nel 2011 preferirei degli standard (specialmente nelle razze consolidate e ben fissate) che poco lasciano alle deduzioni, evitando cosi libertà di interpretazione, ma questo rimane un mio personalissimo parere.
                          Grazie mille per la risposta [:-golf][:-golf][:-golf]

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                          • Lucio Marzano
                            Lo zio
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 30090
                            • chiasso svizzera
                            • bracco italiano

                            #1138
                            Originariamente inviato da ifabio76
                            Quindi non è stata una mia svista.
                            Concordo sul fatto che le convessita "solitamente" portano a delle divergenze, ma nel 2011 preferirei degli standard (specialmente nelle razze consolidate e ben fissate) che poco lasciano alle deduzioni, evitando cosi libertà di interpretazione, ma questo rimane un mio personalissimo parere.
                            Grazie mille per la risposta
                            Qui mi trovi perfettamente daccordo, troppe volte ci sentiamo dire che gli standard (specie quelli di lavoro) vanno interpretati, io preferirei che bastasse leggerli e che se non sono sufficientemente chiari vengano modificati.
                            Parlando di K lo standard morfologico, lo fanno i tedeschi.
                            lucio

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                            • EnricoTaglia
                              ⭐⭐⭐
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2912
                              • Roma, purtroppo
                              • kurzhaar

                              #1139
                              un paio di fotine recenti anche se non ottimali, ferme su quaglie buone
                              File allegati

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                              • cla1967
                                ⭐⭐⭐
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3424
                                • mulazzano
                                • kurzhaar femmina e un maschio

                                #1140
                                in tutto questo bianco ci starebbe bene un po' di nero, però anche un marrone è ammesso[:D][:-golf]
                                [zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto]

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