Tecna baby magnum

[django]

Ciao a tutti. Ho bisogno di un assetto supercollaudato con tecna recente (2014), con 40-42 gr pb 5 e stellare. Ho bossoli 686-cx2000. Impiego su colombi e anatre per tiri impegnativi. Ho borre sg zm drago Max an. Magari sarebbe perfetto averne uno per clima mite e uno per quando fa molto freddo. Grazie

[SPRINGER TOSCANO]

Io ho riscontrato un buon funzionamento dei seguenti assetti ma....la mia tecna e del 2005 o 2006 :
12/70 686 1,90 tecna n Z2M 21 40 Gr 5 nik stellare a 57,8 Bossolo recuperato....la sparo in autunno o comunque con temperature superiori allo zero

12/70 686 1,95 tecna n SG. da 19 40 Gr 3 nik stellate a 58 bossolo recuperato.....
sparata alle lepri in ungheria con freddo intenso....ottima!!
Saluti

[django]

Grazie, ho una base per iniziare...pensavo a 686 1,95x41-42 con zm15 o gt15 st.58 chissà se può funzionare....sicuramente sarà invernale

[nik1920]

Io ho riscontrato un buon funzionamento dei seguenti assetti ma....la mia tecna e del 2005 o 2006 :
12/70 686 1,90 tecna n Z2M 21 40 Gr 5 nik stellare a 57,8 Bossolo recuperato....la sparo in autunno o comunque con temperature superiori allo zero

12/70 686 1,95 tecna n SG. da 19 40 Gr 3 nik stellate a 58 bossolo recuperato.....
sparata alle lepri in ungheria con freddo intenso....ottima!!
Saluti

Scudami springer ma forse il contenitore è lo z2m da 18 x i 40 grammi. Quello da 21 è molto alto...la dose è giusta.

[vecchioA300]

Scusate, ma Django ha la Tecna del 2014, e giusto qualche settimana fà "l'artificiere" della Dimar parlandone mi diceva che gli ultimi lotti sono molto più vivaci, tanto che loro caricano 1,75-1,80 al max. (e le loro Baby sono belle toste....)
Quindi partirei un po' più leggero, specie per la stagione mediocalda.[:-golf]

[Luca da Lecce]

Vedi un po' se posso essere utili questi assetti, dalle mie parti vanno molto bene.
Io ne ho sparate poche di cartucce così caricate ma ad alcuni miei amici, a cui ho passato la ricetta, sono rimasti soddisfattissimi. Mi hanno detto di aver fatto dei bellissimi tiri ad anatre.
Ciao


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[beccaccia61]

Vedi un po' se posso essere utili questi assetti, dalle mie parti vanno molto bene.
Io ne ho sparate poche di cartucce così caricate ma ad alcuni miei amici, a cui ho passato la ricetta, sono rimasti soddisfattissimi. Mi hanno detto di aver fatto dei bellissimi tiri ad anatre.
Ciao


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U.686
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63,8 mm.
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(Mario - Beccaccia 61)
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64 mm.
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Ciao Luca, vedi che quelle dosi son riferite a Tecna non di recente fabbricazione, la tecna recente del 2014 potrebbe essere molto più vivace purtroppo e di certo non andrebbe bene con questi dosaggi che potrebbero risultare molto esuberanti. Molto più utile partire come già suggerito da VecchioA300 pertire da una dose bassa di 1.80x40 inn. cx2000 borra GT18 e stellare, fatte alcune prove si può poi eventualmente salire col dosaggio oppure eventualmente scendere. L'ultimo lotto in mio possesso risale al 2011 non posso aiutarti più di tanto [:-golf] ciao.

[SPRINGER TOSCANO]

Infatti, proprio per questo, io ho specificato che la mia è del 2005 o 2006...quella in latta arancio!! Io però sapevo che negli ultimi lotti la tecna era stata di "riprogressivizzata".....

[django]

La dose 686 1,90x40 zm18 st. È una delle più usate, forse perché costante in vari periodi dell'anno. La mia tecna è in latta originale del 2014, purtroppo acquistata a gennaio, non ho fatto in tempo a provarla. Con quella 2012 mi andava bene cx2000 1,85x40 zm18 pb.5 st.58 ottima con freddo, ha mostrato i suoi limiti in giornate con fortissimo vento da nord. Sto cercando in tutti i modi di realizzare un assetto specifico per questa situazione climatica. Nelle mie zone i colombacci quando soffia il vento da nord molto forte da dicembre a gennaio si muovono molto ed è più facile insediarli. Mi serve un aassetto. Molto veloce che mantenga rosate compatte anche su lunghe distanze.

[Luca da Lecce]

Ciao Luca, vedi che quelle dosi son riferite a Tecna non di recente fabbricazione, la tecna recente del 2014 potrebbe essere molto più vivace purtroppo e di certo non andrebbe bene con questi dosaggi che potrebbero risultare molto esuberanti. Molto più utile partire come già suggerito da VecchioA300 pertire da una dose bassa di 1.80x40 inn. cx2000 borra GT18 e stellare, fatte alcune prove si può poi eventualmente salire col dosaggio oppure eventualmente scendere. L'ultimo lotto in mio possesso risale al 2011 non posso aiutarti più di tanto [:-golf] ciao.

Si Mario, concordo con te quanto detto, difatti sta poi nell'utente provare gli assetti ed "aggiustarli".

Quante volte ci siamo imbattuti in dosi da tabelle e poi abbiamo provveduto ad effettuare le dovute correzioni se non per canna manometrica ma con consigli di esperti ed amici caricatori del luogo.

Ad ogni modo quegli assetti sono stati caricati con Tecna lotto 2014 acquistata sfusa ed i miei amici sono rimasti soddisfattissimi con abbattimenti puliti, in alcuni casi, anche oltre il tiro utile del 12.
Così mi hanno riferito e così ti riferisco.

Io le ho provate in piombo 4 nik a qualche colombo con il mio Benelli e canna da 70 cm. strozzatura 1 stella e li ho spenti ad una buona distanza, ad occhio e croce credo sui 35/40 mt.

Ciao comparuzzo [:-golf].

n.b. comunque le tue dispersanti stratificate con l'MBx36 le sparano una decina di amici... e sono contentissimi

[nik1920]

Io avevo quella del 2011 e facevo 686 1.80x40 e z2m18 mentre con quella del 01/2014 faccio 686 1.90x40 con z2m18 e stellare a 58

[beccaccia61]

La Tecna è una di quelle polveri che più di tutte ha subito e subisce continue variazioni di progressività, purtroppo.. mettendo in difficoltà gli appassionati di ricarica come noi che non siamo dotati di strumentazioni di controllo delle munizioni. Per fortuna che c'è il forum con i suoi frequentatori e specie con i suoi esperti, sempre pronti a venirci incontro.
Comparuzzo caro, mi fà piacere che le cartucce funzionano, prima di consigliarle le provo di persona. Quella stratificata in particolare però a dire iò vero l'ho presa dal forum e non ricordo chi l'avesse ideata, certo è che funziona alla grande... poi se vuoi ne ho un'altra stratificata in ogivale che è una meraviglia, l'anno scorso ha fatto furore, l'ho usata anche sui germani al rientro serale al fiume, col 7 e mezzo non fà prigionieri, mai!!! Tornando alla Tecna Springer Toscano, anche io avevo sentito che gli ultimi lotti li avevano resi più progressivi ma vecchioA300 ha avuto notizie diverse.. IO non ho provato, possiedo un pò di quella BONA (latta arancio) un pò del 2008, quella 2011 l'ho terminata. Quella recente aspettiamo di avere notizie più sicure sulla sua progressività, io credo che il nostro amico possa iniziare a fare qualche prova partendo dai bassi dosaggi citati per poi fare le considerazioni opportune. Ciao Mario

[ronin977]

Ciao ti do un assetto che mi ha dato molte soddisfazioni
12/70/t5/cx50. 2x43 z2m stellare a 57,8!
Ottima cartuccia efficacissima! Probabilmente la migliore con stellare che ho avuto modo di provare con tecna,! Mi ha funzionato da apertura a dicembre!

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Col freddo passa al 615!

[O' Brigante]

Devo caricare delle cartucce a pallettoni per tiro in cava.... Secondo voi quale di questo assetto é migliore

- T4/ cx2000/borra lb6 con sugherino cal20 3mm 1.90x10 pallettoni 11/0 e chiusura stellare ( un po' bozzolata)
- T4/ cx2000/borra lb6 con sugherino cal20 3mm 2.05x10 pallettoni 11/0 chiusura tonda a 61,5mm ( resta un po' troppo spazio sopra ma la chiusura viene bene)
Per recuperare 3mm per la chiusura tonda avevo pensato di mettere 2 sugherini per un totale di 6mm così li recupero sopra....