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  • Lucio Marzano
    Lo zio
    • Mar 2005
    • 30090
    • chiasso svizzera
    • bracco italiano

    #2551
    si offenderebbe solo uno sciocco, io in questo caso elogio una testa tipica e non condivido parte delle tue considerazioni. per me salto naso frontale appena percettibile, commensura labiale appena evidente, muso corretto, grande orecchio
    salto naso frontale appena percepibile non corrisponde al dettato dello standard che lo vuole "modertamente marcato"
    la commessura labiale mi pare molto evidente , non ho eccepito nulla su orecchio o muso entrambi corretti, mentre il tartufo dovrebbe essere leggermente sporgente e sulla foto non appare per nulla sporgente.
    Il tutto puo' anche portare ad una testa eccellente che pero' a mio personalissimo parere é un tantino pesante nel suo insieme ma convengo che questo sia un giudizio molto opinabile.
    lucio

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    • cla1967
      ⭐⭐⭐
      • Jan 2009
      • 3424
      • mulazzano
      • kurzhaar femmina e un maschio

      #2552
      a me piacerebbe vedere anche il resto, poi si decide [:D]
      [zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto]

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      • marco s
        ⭐⭐⭐
        • Apr 2009
        • 2839
        • buttigliera alta (TO)
        • kurzhaar Aris kurzhaar York Kurzhaar Miss Lilly

        #2553
        Originariamente inviato da cla1967
        a me piacerebbe vedere anche il resto, poi si decide [:D]
        Se vuoi te lo descrivo io! Credo di avergli fatto una radiografia.

        ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 08:48 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 08:44 PM ----------

        Originariamente inviato da Lucio Marzano
        una testa eccellente che pero' a mio personalissimo parere é un tantino pesante nel suo insieme ma convengo che questo sia un giudizio molto opinabile.
        Sì Lucio, l'ho scritto fin dall'inizio che la foto non rendeva giustizia. Avendolo visto dal vivo posso assicurare che quella testa è tutt'altro che pesante, come del resto il cane nel suo insieme, che è veramente fine, di ossatura sottile e piuttosto elegante... Occhio, non è certo una tua colpa. Se si chiedono pareri postando una foto poi si piglia quel che passa il convento.
        L'indulgenza verso sé stessi induce ad essere accondiscendenti verso le scorrettezze altrui. Gamsbart Power

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        • Lucio Marzano
          Lo zio
          • Mar 2005
          • 30090
          • chiasso svizzera
          • bracco italiano

          #2554
          purtroppo qui dobbiamo o non commentare o commentare da quello che ci viene sottoposto la fotografia di una testa ed ho anticipato che con le foto si prendono cantonate. Le mie critiche sono comunque dettagliate e motivate con la citazione dello standard.
          lucio

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          • EnricoTaglia
            ⭐⭐⭐
            • Feb 2009
            • 2912
            • Roma, purtroppo
            • kurzhaar

            #2555
            Originariamente inviato da Lucio Marzano
            purtroppo qui dobbiamo o non commentare o commentare da quello che ci viene sottoposto la fotografia di una testa ed ho anticipato che con le foto si prendono cantonate. Le mie critiche sono comunque dettagliate e motivate con la citazione dello standard.

            credo sia tutto normale, del resto nelle esposizioni quante volte abbiamo visto (purtroppo) un giudice dare ad un soggetto una volta un 1° MB e la volta appresso un altro dare una riserva di Cac? comunque sono discorsi fatti su un soggetto che sembra possedere una testa tipica, il quanto tipica è da vedere, certamente non presenta difetti netti o "invalidanti"

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            • Massimo
              ⭐⭐⭐
              • Jul 2006
              • 2632
              • Roma, Roma, Lazio.
              • Pointer/Mora/Gina

              #2556
              Se posso da ex-kurzhaarista la testa è sicuramente tipica con un orecchio difficile da trovare di meglio ma a me personalmente piacciono altre tipologie di teste,mi piace molto il manto e poi bisognerebbe vederlo in piedi ed in posa.
              Massimo C.

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              • Lucio Marzano
                Lo zio
                • Mar 2005
                • 30090
                • chiasso svizzera
                • bracco italiano

                #2557
                Originariamente inviato da EnricoTaglia
                credo sia tutto normale, del resto nelle esposizioni quante volte abbiamo visto (purtroppo) un giudice dare ad un soggetto una volta un 1° MB e la volta appresso un altro dare una riserva di Cac? comunque sono discorsi fatti su un soggetto che sembra possedere una testa tipica, il quanto tipica è da vedere, certamente non presenta difetti netti o "invalidanti"
                giusto allora per essere precisi riporto di seguito i difetti previsti dallo standard divisi in normali - gravi - e da squalifica

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                · Difetti di comportamento, non in accordo col proprio sesso o non tipici di quest’ultimo.
                · Muso troppo corto
                · Labbra troppo pesanti o troppo leggere
                · Da un totale di 4 PM1 e 2 M3 solo due denti possono mancare
                · Occhi troppo chiari, giallognoli “occhi da rapace”
                · Orecchi troppo lunghi, troppo corti, troppo pesanti, dall’attaccatura troppo stretta, o rigirati.
                · Giogaia
                · Linea superiore leggermente “ a carpa”
                · Groppa troppo corta
                · Torace troppo profondo
                · Coda fortemente ricurva, o portata troppo alta, al di sopra della linea dorsale.
                · Gomiti rivolti in dentro o in fuori. Piedi rivolti in dentro in fuori; anteriore aperto o chiuso.
                · Posteriore troppo diritto
                · Posteriori leggermente cagnoli, garretti leggermente vaccini o ravvicinati.

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mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]-->DIFETTI GRAVI: · Pesante, linfatico, dalla costruzione grossolana
                · Stop marcato
                · Naso color carne o parzialmente depigmentato (tranne che per i
                mantelli dal fondo bianco)
                · Muso a punta, canna nasale concava.
                · Chiusura a tenaglia o parzialmente a tenaglia (nei cani che hanno più di 4 anni LA cosiddetta chiusura a tenaglia può non essere penalizzata se il “Kurzhaar Club Tedesco” ha certificato che in una precedente esposizione la chiusura era corretta)
                · Netto dorso di carpa o dorso leggermente insellato
                · Torace visibilmente d’insufficiente profondità, sterno poco sviluppato, costole troppo piatte o a botte
                · Gomiti nettamente deviati in fuori o in dentro
                · Metacarpi deboli o abbassati
                · Metacarpo verticale (diritto)
                · Posteriore nettamente vaccino o cagnolo, sia in stazione che inmovimento
                · Alto sul posteriore
                · Piedi piatti
                · Dita schiacciate (aperte)
                · Andatura pesante
                · Differenza nella taglia di più di 2 cm. dalle misure prescritte dallo standard.
                · Grave deviazione dal carattere sessuale

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mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;} </style> <![endif]--> DIFETTI ELIMINATORI.
                · Grave deviazione dal carattere sessuale
                · Mancanza di più di due denti dal totale di quattro P1 e due M3 -Mancanza di un dente o più denti altri che P1 e M3 I denti no visibili sono considerati mancanti, a meno che un certificato del D.K.C. attesti la loro presenza in occasione di una precedente verifica.
                · Enognatismo, prognatismo, incisivi incrociati o altre deviazioni
                · Denti in soprannumero, al di fuori dell’arcata dentaria
                · Palato diviso, labbro leporino.
                · Palpebre molto rilasciate, ectropion, entropion, distichiasi (doppia fila di ciglia)
                · Dorso molto insellato, malformazione della colonna vertebrale

                e su molti punti ci sarebbe da dare qualche spiegazioni riguardo al perché siano considerati "difetti"


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                • milo

                  #2558
                  tutti i commenti fatti sono estremamente giusti assolutamente non mi offendo se il commento viene come sento da persone veramente competenti come voi, conosco anche io alcuni difetti del mio cane apprezzo la sincerità nei commenti mi piacerebbe farvelo vedere meglio intanto vi ringrazio e cercherò altre foto

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                  stamattina il ragazzo ha fatto la sua prima monta tt ok

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                  • Andrea81
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                    • Jun 2007
                    • 10058
                    • Perugia, Perugia, Umbria.
                    • Kurzhaar Lilly Sissy,Hilary di montecarelli,meticcio Dolly,springer spaniel Susy

                    #2559
                    con chi si è accoppiato??
                    Andrea[:D]

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                    • milo

                      #2560
                      con Brina una cagna di rovereto tn

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                      • milo

                        #2561
                        montichiari genn 2012 CAC CACIB BOB

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                        • EnricoTaglia
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2912
                          • Roma, purtroppo
                          • kurzhaar

                          #2562
                          Originariamente inviato da milo
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                          io ho la mia idea, sempre parlando di foto, ovviamente

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                          • milo

                            #2563
                            SILVER

                            vi presento il fratello di milo
                            File allegati

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                            • Attila72
                              • May 2010
                              • 62
                              • Montjovet (AO)
                              • Kurzhaar:Nome FRITZ

                              #2564
                              Originariamente inviato da marco s
                              Da una foto così è pericoloso dare giudizi. Ha la bocca aperta, è accaldato, è in piedi e leggermente di spalle. Qui si analizza il millimetro!!![;)]

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                              Secondo me è la foto che fa sorgere dubbi.
                              Drool] Spero che con questa foto si veda meglio...

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                              • cla1967
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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3424
                                • mulazzano
                                • kurzhaar femmina e un maschio

                                #2565
                                Originariamente inviato da milo
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                                grazie per la foto intera,quanto tempo ha milo?
                                [zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto][zitto]

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