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  • Max54
    ⭐⭐⭐
    • Oct 2020
    • 1682
    • sora
    • Spinone Italiano

    #6811
    Quelle canne montate sulla serie A300,di per se' armi sbilanciate in avanti,danno il massimo come resa bilanciamento e sveltezza alla spalla brandeggio senza intaccare il controllo dell'arma sulla doppiatura veloce del colpo con il coprifiletto,62,5 ,o con lo 0,25 64,5.

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    • Seagate
      ⭐⭐⭐
      • Feb 2018
      • 1308
      • La Spezia

      #6812
      se lo 0,0 fosse 18.3 in pacca alla volata e la canna forata 18.5...avremmo 2/10 di strozzatura...dato che la foratura delle qc va da 18.2 a 18.5 si può passare da -1/10 a 2/10...se poi considero le tolleranze di lavorazione e le approsimazioni di punzonatura... credo che con carota e bastone...pardon tampone ...ne verrebbero fuori di curiose...

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      • flou
        ⭐⭐⭐
        • Mar 2016
        • 5993
        • roma
        • setter LARA

        #6813
        Originariamente inviato da Salvuccio
        Allora lo 00 ha la funzione solo di coprifiletto comunque lo immagginavo ma mi domandavo già c'era anche il tappo coprifiletto mi domandavo che hanno fatto due cose con lo stesso senso il tappo e il 00 e uguale di sostanza
        Ti ha gia risposto Mannlicher ...........ed anche seagate se vedi .
        Sono sostanzialmente uguali il coprifilo e lo 0,00 pero' .............. perche c'e' un pero'............................................. ...



        Se spari con una canna q.c. forata 18,5 ed il solo coprifiletto stai sparando con una canna cilindrica.


        Se sulla stessa canna monti lo strozzatore 0,00 non sparerai piu' cilindrico bensi' con 2/10 di strozzatura .



        Questo perche' le misure punzonate sugli strozzatori sono da considerarsi tali sulla foratura di una canna da 18,3 mm



        Se piu larga ( come fatto esempio di 18,5 ) il valore dello strozzzatore si accentua, viceversa se il contrario.

        ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 05:25 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 05:24 PM ----------

        Poi come giustamente scritto da Seagate tra tolleranze caxxi e maxxi se ne vedrebbero di strane

        ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 05:26 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 05:25 PM ----------

        Stessa cosa nel calibro 20 dove credo il valore di partenza della foratura se non ricordo male dovrebbe essere 15,7..............

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        • Salvuccio
          • Nov 2008
          • 100
          • Centuripe (EN)
          • segugi incrociati

          #6814
          Originariamente inviato da flou
          Ti ha gia risposto Mannlicher ...........ed anche seagate se vedi .
          Sono sostanzialmente uguali il coprifilo e lo 0,00 pero' .............. perche c'e' un pero'............................................. ...



          Se spari con una canna q.c. forata 18,5 ed il solo coprifiletto stai sparando con una canna cilindrica.


          Se sulla stessa canna monti lo strozzatore 0,00 non sparerai piu' cilindrico bensi' con 2/10 di strozzatura .



          Questo perche' le misure punzonate sugli strozzatori sono da considerarsi tali sulla foratura di una canna da 18,3 mm



          Se piu larga ( come fatto esempio di 18,5 ) il valore dello strozzzatore si accentua, viceversa se il contrario.

          ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 05:25 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 05:24 PM ----------

          Poi come giustamente scritto da Seagate tra tolleranze caxxi e maxxi se ne vedrebbero di strane

          ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 05:26 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 05:25 PM ----------

          Stessa cosa nel calibro 20 dove credo il valore di partenza della foratura se non ricordo male dovrebbe essere 15,7..............
          E con una foratura 18.4 con lo 00 che strozzatura si ottiene?

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          • Max54
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            • Oct 2020
            • 1682
            • sora
            • Spinone Italiano

            #6815
            Fai una cosa usa solo il copri filetto piu' corta piu' snella e vai sicuro che tanto con le cartucce odierne 1 o 2 decimi fanno poca, se non nessuna,differenza.Se solo lo 0,00 taglia lima e fai un bellissimo coprifiletto.

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            • flou
              ⭐⭐⭐
              • Mar 2016
              • 5993
              • roma
              • setter LARA

              #6816
              Originariamente inviato da Salvuccio
              E con una foratura 18.4 con lo 00 che strozzatura si ottiene?
              1 decimo...

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              • Nikolis
                ⭐⭐
                • Dec 2016
                • 914
                • Greece
                • [url=https://postimg.cc/tY3NZjyf][img]https://i.postimg.cc/65SjPWP9/IMG-3326.jpg[/img][/url]

                #6817
                Il restauro della 303 e arrivato alla fine, la grande signora Italiana porta un nuovo vestito firmato da Gianni di Atene. La canna e fatta con la procedura rust bluing e sono stati cambiati anche i pezzi arrugginiti di catoff. La foratura e misurata 18.25 e il choke fisso 17.55mm.


















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                • Joetriple
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 87
                  • Verona
                  • Pointer

                  #6818
                  Originariamente inviato da Nikolis
                  Il restauro della 303 e arrivato alla fine, la grande signora Italiana porta un nuovo vestito firmato da Gianni di Atene. La canna e fatta con la procedura rust bluing e sono stati cambiati anche i pezzi arrugginiti di catoff. La foratura e misurata 18.25 e il choke fisso 17.55mm.


















                  Complimenti davvero.
                  Per essere un lavoro Home Made è davvero favoloso💪🏼💪🏼

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                  • G.G.
                    Moderatore Armi e Polveri
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 11220
                    • BOLOGNA, Bologna, Emilia Romagna.
                    • Epagneul Breton

                    #6819
                    Una raccomandazione, quando e se quotate una risposta con foto, verificate la vostra risposta e con l'editing lasciate solo il testo o al massimo una foto, e togliete le altre, o avremo una situazione improponibile di post con ripetizioni di serie infinite di foto inutili!

                    Comunque complimenti a Gianni il greco, bellissimo lavoro!

                    Cordialità
                    G.G.
                    Some people hear their own inner voices with great
                    clearness and they live by what they hear.
                    Such people become crazy, or they become legends.
                    </O:p

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                    • louison
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                      • Jul 2012
                      • 4192
                      • LUGO DI VICENZA
                      • NESSUNO

                      #6820
                      Originariamente inviato da G.G.
                      Una raccomandazione, quando e se quotate una risposta con foto, verificate la vostra risposta e con l'editing lasciate solo il testo o al massimo una foto, e togliete le altre, o avremo una situazione improponibile di post con ripetizioni di serie infinite di foto inutili!

                      Comunque complimenti a Gianni il greco, bellissimo lavoro!

                      Cordialità
                      G.G.
                      Accertato l'errore penso che potrebbero i moderatori cancellare queste inutili ripetizioni di foto .
                      Ultima modifica louison; 11-07-22, 00:28.

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                      • al-per
                        ⭐⭐⭐
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 1257
                        • Mantignana (PG)

                        #6821
                        Chiedo scusa per l’O.T. ma non ritengo che il compito dei moderatori di un forum sia quello di ridurre o sfoltire i messaggi quotati aventi un lungo testo o molte foto.
                        Nella pagina iniziale di questa sezione “Armi e polveri” c’è una discussione dello scorso anno (Regole ai messaggi con foto), qualche riga sotto questa che riguarda i Beretta 300/303, ed entrambe sono poste in evidenza, cioè sono tra quelle maggiormente importanti del forum.
                        In modo sintetico e preciso viene spiegato come fare per quotare un messaggio inserendo solo la parte scritta o la/le foto che interessano, escludendo il resto.
                        È molto più semplice farlo noi quando si quota per risponde che delegare il compito ai moderatori che dovrebbero leggere il messaggio di risposta e togliere ciò che non è pertinente con esso.
                        Non dimentichiamo che i moderatori svolgono un compito fondamentale per il forum e per tutti noi e lo fanno per puro spirito di servizio verso tutti gli iscritti.
                        Credo quindi che agevolando il loro compito per migliorare e snellire l’uso e il funzionamento del forum tutti noi ne avremo dei vantaggi.
                        Questo è il mio punto di vista, nel rispetto di quello di tutti gli altri iscritti e senza voler urtare la suscettibilità di nessuno.
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                        • louison
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                          • Jul 2012
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                          #6822
                          Originariamente inviato da al-per;1476377)
                          In modo sintetico e preciso viene spiegato come fare per quotare un messaggio inserendo solo la parte scritta o la/le foto che interessano, escludendo il resto.
                          È molto più semplice farlo noi quando si quota per risponde che delegare il compito ai moderatori che dovrebbero leggere il messaggio di risposta e togliere ciò che non è pertinente con esso.

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                          Purtroppo c' è chi non conosce la procedura e continua e reinserire inutilmente le foto .

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                          • Joetriple
                            • Sep 2018
                            • 87
                            • Verona
                            • Pointer

                            #6823
                            Originariamente inviato da G.G.
                            Una raccomandazione, quando e se quotate una risposta con foto, verificate la vostra risposta e con l'editing lasciate solo il testo o al massimo una foto, e togliete le altre, o avremo una situazione improponibile di post con ripetizioni di serie infinite di foto inutili!

                            Comunque complimenti a Gianni il greco, bellissimo lavoro!

                            Cordialità
                            G.G.
                            Chiedo Venia. Errore mio. 🤚🏻

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                            • G.G.
                              Moderatore Armi e Polveri
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 11220
                              • BOLOGNA, Bologna, Emilia Romagna.
                              • Epagneul Breton

                              #6824
                              Originariamente inviato da louison
                              Accertato l'errore penso che potrebbero i moderatori cancellare queste inutili ripetizioni di foto .
                              Sarebbe da fare, ripetere molte foto che sono già presenti nella risposta appena sopra ... non ha alcun senso.
                              Più importante a mio avviso era far capire che è possibile rispondere quotando e togliendo i doppioni delle immagini con l'editing.
                              C'è un mio messaggio specifico tra le discussioni in evidenza.

                              Cordialità
                              G.G.

                              ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 03:23 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 03:22 PM ----------

                              Originariamente inviato da Joetriple
                              Chiedo Venia. Errore mio. 🤚🏻
                              Nessun problema, anzi così, abbiamo avuto modo di discuterne tra tutti.

                              Cordialità
                              G.G.

                              ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 03:27 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 03:23 PM ----------

                              Originariamente inviato da al-per
                              Chiedo scusa per l’O.T. ma non ritengo che il compito dei moderatori di un forum sia quello di ridurre o sfoltire i messaggi quotati aventi un lungo testo o molte foto.
                              Nella pagina iniziale di questa sezione “Armi e polveri” c’è una discussione dello scorso anno (Regole ai messaggi con foto), qualche riga sotto questa che riguarda i Beretta 300/303, ed entrambe sono poste in evidenza, cioè sono tra quelle maggiormente importanti del forum.
                              In modo sintetico e preciso viene spiegato come fare per quotare un messaggio inserendo solo la parte scritta o la/le foto che interessano, escludendo il resto.
                              cut
                              Grazie Aldo, non ti avevo ancora letto ed ho ripetuto quanto hai scritto tu qui sopra, perfetta sintesi la tua del mio intervento, che hai sottolineato perfettamente.
                              [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

                              Cordialità
                              G.G.
                              Some people hear their own inner voices with great
                              clearness and they live by what they hear.
                              Such people become crazy, or they become legends.
                              </O:p

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                              • Mick
                                Ho rotto il silenzio
                                • Jul 2022
                                • 45
                                • Sicilia

                                #6825
                                Buon Dì! sono nuovo del forum. Ho letto svariati messaggi su questo threat riguardo i beretta serie 300. Chiedo il parere di un esperto ( o piu di uno :) )
                                Posseggo da un anno un bell A301 regalato dal nonno, che ha comprato nel anno 1976, il fucile è del 1975. Con mia sopresa scoprii che l'arma montava una canna SP 71 cm 3 stelle forata 18.3. Matricola B...F, bindella ponti bassi. L'ha posseduto dal 76 fino ad oggi, tolto la ruggine e va che è una meraviglia. NON uso piou altri fucili.. è una bomba, prestazioni allucinanti che non avevo visto mai nemmeno con gli altri vecchi beretta.
                                HO pero alcuni dubbi dul perchè di alcune cose.
                                La carcassa del mio a301 sembra tipo anodizzata tanto che sbiadita dall 'usura si vede di un blu bellissimo intenso.. ma vedo che sono molto piu comuni le carcasse completamente nere, sembrano verniciate, come mai? perchè il mio è blu?
                                Poi altra cosa strana, posseggo anche un'altra canna 71 cm ma da 1 stella, matricola B...F, sempre del 1975 ma ha punzonata la sigla H sulla canna, nello stesso posto dove la'altra ha la sigla SP. Mi chiedevo se sapeste cosa significa questa sigla, in giro su interet non ho trovato alcuna informazione....


                                ---------- Messaggio inserito alle 04:18 PM ---------- il messaggio prcedente inserito alle 04:15 PM ----------

                                ecco la canna son sigla H, posto la foto sotto.

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